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Interview with Hu Ge

　　　　　　 "The Most Beautiful Performance" meets Hu Ge again, four years later.

　　In 2015, several major dramas such as "The Pretender", "Langya Bang" and "Good Times" put him in the spotlight. That year, Hu Ge played a boxer in the "Best Performance" short film "Intermission", and went through a month-long fitness preparation for filming.

　　In 2019, the 37-year-old Hu Ge switched to the film industry, starring in the film "The Wild Goose Lake", which was shortlisted for the main competition of this year’s Cannes Film Festival.

　　Many people believe that acting in costume idol dramas in their 20s attracts countless fans; after the age of 35, they become movie actors, and their first films can be shortlisted for Cannes. Hu Ge’s transformation has been very successful.

　　And Hu Ge himself said that whether it succeeds or not remains to be tested by the audience after the release of "The Wild Goose Lake", but at least he has taken that step.

　　This year, he joined the most beautiful performance again. Hu Ge collaborated with director Diao Yinan for the second time to stage the extra part of "The Wild Goose Lake", and one person played the triangle.

　　The short film went through 8 hours of pre-scheduling preparation. According to director Diao Yinan, because it was a one-shot shooting, no mistakes could be made in all aspects. All the staff were nervous, and Hu Ge was the most relaxed one on the set.

　　This kind of ease and comfort is also the feeling Hu Ge gave us. Today, he is open to the transformation of male artists, fan fundraising, film and television winter and other topics, and has also contributed a lot of golden sentences.

　　Chat with Diao Yinan in the background of Double 11 about the script

　　Sina Entertainment: This time, one person plays the triangle. Which role are you most looking forward to?

　　Hu Ge: I treat all the roles I will play and have played equally, with no favorite or least favorite.

　　Sina Entertainment: Did you have any particular urge to act when you saw the script?

　　Hu Ge: Of course, because first of all it still has some relevance to our movie "The Wild Goose Lake". Then two new people were added, which didn’t seem to have much to do with the movie.

　　Sina Entertainment: So the character of the fugitive is Zhou Zenong, right?

　　Hu Ge: Yeah.

　　Sina Entertainment: This time I played a fugitive again, and I worked with director Diao Yinan again. Did it remind you of the filming of "The Wild Goose Lake" at that time?

　　Hu Ge: I don’t have to imagine it. When I got to that scene later, I thought I would go back. Because it was a big night again, we basically had more than 70% to 80% of the scenes were night scenes.

　　Sina Entertainment: How does it feel to work with director Diao Yinan?

　　Hu Ge: He is a very pure artistic film director. Working with him, my biggest feeling is that I can forget everything and let it go. Although I have been working with him for more than half a year, although there has been a lot of suffering and pressure, looking back now, I feel that every minute and every second is very memorable for me.

　　Sina Entertainment: Did you have any discussions and preparations with him in advance about this script?

　　Hu Ge: Yes, we had some discussions on the details of the script characters’ creation in the background of Double 11, including styling. When we set our makeup two days ago, we re-determined the tone of today’s performances of different characters.

　　Sina Entertainment: What’s your understanding of this script?

　　Hu Ge: I think it is equivalent to showing a certain scene in our movie, a condensed version of a bridge, on the most beautiful performance of Sina. Of course, on the basis of the original, some new content has also been filled, expanded and imagined.

　　Sina Entertainment: After reading the script, do you think the biggest challenge is the presentation of long shots?

　　Hu Ge: Indeed, the biggest difficulty for this part of me today lies in the operation of the long-shot technology, including the fact that I have to play three roles on this occasion, which is also very difficult.

　　Sina Entertainment: Have you had such relevant experience before?

　　Hu Ge: No. But there may be more forms of this in stage plays. For example, in stage plays, I play the role one minute, and then I quickly step down and change clothes, and then I come on stage to play another role. It is often seen on stage. But it is very rare in film and television dramas.

　　Sina Entertainment: So in the short film, you also need to change clothes very quickly.

　　Hu Ge: Yes, so when we set makeup, we actually have a lot of early design in technology, how can we go from clothing to makeup to styling in the fastest time?

　　A good actor can go to the sky as well as the earth

　　Sina Entertainment: In fact, this is also the second time that Mr. Hu Ge has participated in our most beautiful performance. The last time was in 2015. Do you remember the situation at that time? What’s new this time?

　　Hu Ge: I understand that the most beautiful performance of Sina is a stage for breakthroughs and challenges. The last role I played was also very far away from me, and for that performance, I also prepared for more than a month. At that time, I had to meet the director’s requirements to play a boxer. In more than a month, I built muscle and increased circumference. Although the time is short, I think whether it is a second or an hour, it should be remembered by the audience.

　　After 4 years, has your understanding of the words most beautiful performance changed?

　　Hu Ge: Last time, I also wrote down my understanding of the most beautiful performance on paper very carefully. This time, of course, I am also very serious. I am not lazy, but I did not write a word. I think it is difficult to define the performance in words, especially the most beautiful performance.

　　Sina Entertainment: So which play or moment brought you this change in thinking?

　　Hu Ge: It may be a feeling brought to me by so many years or so many characters and works. I feel that there is no standard for performance itself, and there is no standard for good or bad.

　　Sina Entertainment: What do you think is your most beautiful performance moment so far?

　　Hu Ge: When I’m not acting in life, I think it should be the most beautiful. You see, I just said that I can’t define it in words, I’ll define it casually now.

　　Sina Entertainment: Looking back on your long experience in the industry, what stages do you think your performance has gone through?

　　Hu Ge: It’s hard for me to summarize myself. Generally speaking, I used to be desperately learning tricks and routines, but now I’m desperately trying to hide these tricks and routines.

　　Sina Entertainment: What do you think is the key to being a good actor?

　　Hu Ge: If you can go to the sky, you can also go to the earth. Just when you are in the sky, don’t forget that you still have two legs. You can still come back and walk. Don’t forget that you have legs when you are in the sky.

　　Fans’ love should not be measured by the amount of funds raised

　　What do you think was the most beautiful moment in "The Wild Goose Lake"?

　　Hu Ge: After the movie is released, I will tell everyone that there are no spoilers, and the mystery must be kept until December 6th.

　　Sina Entertainment: What are your current expectations for this drama?

　　Hu Ge: I hope its performance can be worthy of everyone’s efforts, I mean the performance of the market.

　　Sina Entertainment: But you said some time ago that you don’t need fans to raise funds to support the box office.

　　Hu Ge: You may have some misunderstandings about my last comment. I’m not saying that you can’t buy tickets to support it. In fact, it’s impossible. I agree with everyone buying tickets to watch my movie or booking a group to watch the movie.

　　I don’t always agree with measuring or judging whether he is a senior fan or whether he is an excellent fan by the amount of fan funding. I think this is a completely wrong standard, so I don’t really want to see these things happen. Sina Entertainment: During your growth process, how did the relationship between fans and you change?

　　Hu Ge: I just celebrated the 15th anniversary of the establishment of the official website some time ago, and they have always been my motivation. I know their intentions are for my own good, so I am also very grateful. I used to say that I and my fans are like friends who don’t meet each other, and we have each other in our hearts. But maybe we met on the road, but we don’t know each other. It’s such a relationship.

　　I should play a role in guiding them correctly.

　　Sina Entertainment: In fact, it has become an industry phenomenon for fans to raise funds to support movies or buy endorsements. Do you think this way of fans helping idols help their careers is advisable?

　　Hu Ge: I am not qualified to comment on the fans of other artists. Everyone’s intentions are good, and they are all for the better development of their favorite artists in their careers. But at the level of execution and operation, everyone may have different ideas. According to my understanding and standards, I don’t want my fans to do such things.

　　I found the motivation to continue in the movie

　　Sina Entertainment: In the past two years, you have also participated in the shooting of some films and cooperated with some excellent directors. What do you think is your greatest achievement in these two years?

　　Hu Ge: Let me find the motivation to continue acting and the courage to return to life completely. In fact, what I think I am most afraid of is a state of being unable to rise. It is like a fallen leaf that is red, but it also falls. It floats in the wind, but it has no vitality.

　　Sina Entertainment: What does this mean? Does it mean that actors must transition at the age of 30 and 35?

　　Hu Ge: I mean creativity and artistic vitality. For example, if a leaf is red, it will fall off. For most people, they will be afraid and anxious. They always don’t want it to fall off, but you have to think about it falling and withering, it will rot in the soil again, and it can have new life.

　　Sina Entertainment: When did you lose your creative drive?

　　Hu Ge: There are often such things. Not just after the age of 30 or 35, but actually when I was in my 20s, I was thinking about this issue. Because once you are characterized as a certain type of actor, or when you are imprisoned in a certain type of film and television work, it is difficult to get out of this situation.

　　Sina Entertainment: Do you think your current transformation has been successful?

　　Hu Ge: At least I made it out. It can’t be said to be unsuccessful. It still needs to be tested by the audience and the market, but at least I made it out.

　　Sina Entertainment: Everyone knows that acting is a relatively passive chosen profession, so is it difficult to take this step? Hu Ge: Your mileage may vary, sometimes it is forced, sometimes it is active.

　　Sina Entertainment: Many people think that male actors between the ages of 30 and 35 have to transform. Do you think transformation is necessary?

　　Hu Ge: Not necessarily. Because if you can be an idol for a lifetime and have traffic and popularity for a lifetime, that is also a benefit. The key is how you see yourself.

　　If I become an idol for a lifetime, I will only enjoy the halo of an idol, maybe not myself; but if you become an idol for a lifetime, you can continuously bring positive energy to those who like you, which is a good thing.

　　Of course, some people prefer to immerse themselves in performance, and he prefers to be accomplished in art or creation, which is another way.

　　But I don’t think there is a comparison, because it’s probably easier to take the first path before you’re 30. And after the age of 30, the first path may become more and more accurate.

　　Sina Entertainment: As an actor, have you ever experienced the so-called midlife crisis?

　　Hu Ge: Not yet. Because now I feel that I may not have really reached the stage of middle age. Of course, when I choose roles, I will deliberately avoid some roles such as my father. Maybe after I reach a certain age, only characters like my father will come to me, and when no other young characters come to me, I may have a crisis because I have no life experience. I have not become a father in my own life, so it may be a difficult thing for me to play a father, or to have a family in the play.

　　Sina Entertainment: Now is the industry’s film and television winter, and many good actors will not be able to receive plays for a long time, including fewer and fewer better projects on the market. As a member of the industry, do you have any personal experience?

　　Hu Ge: When winter comes, there are still many things to do. I think if filming is not to solve the problem of food and clothing, it doesn’t mean that if I don’t film, I will have no food to eat, and I will not be able to pay the rent. If there are no worries and concerns in this regard, I think when the cold winter comes, it is also a good time to maintain health, right?

　　We can take the opportunity to let the original impulsive heart settle down. You can use this time to absorb and learn something new.

　　Sina Entertainment: But some people may worry that if they don’t come out to film for a long time, they will be forgotten by the industry and the market.

　　Hu Ge: Back to the topic just mentioned, which path do you choose? If you prefer the first path, there is indeed such a cruel reality. If you don’t appear in front of the public for a long time, your traffic popularity may drop significantly. But if you choose the second path, I don’t think it will have much impact.

　　On November 12th, the "Most Beautiful Books" in 2018 was announced. Twenty-five books from 20 publishing houses won the title of "Most Beautiful Books" this year, and they will represent China in the "Most Beautiful Books in the World" in 2019.

　　This year’s "China’s Most Beautiful Books" contest began in June this year, and a total of 541 volumes of 326 participating books were received. After two rounds of voting by all the judges, 25 "most beautiful books" of this year were produced on November 10th.

　　Founded in 2003, "The Most Beautiful Book" is an annual book design selection activity sponsored by Shanghai Press and Publication Bureau. For more than ten years, the "Most Beautiful Books" jury was entrusted by the German Book Art Foundation, the organizer of "The Most Beautiful Books in the World" in Leipzig, Germany, to invite top book designers at home and abroad to serve as judges, select and recommend the "Most Beautiful Books" from China in that year and send them to Leipzig, Germany to participate in the selection of "The Most Beautiful Books in the World" in the next year. Over the past decade, 15 batches of 321 kinds of "the most beautiful books" from China have appeared in Leipzig, Germany, and 19 kinds have won the award of "the most beautiful books in the world", including 2 gold medals.

　　For more than ten years, the evaluation of "The Most Beautiful Book" has always paid attention to the integrity of book design, the perfect combination of book content and form, the improvement of book function by book design, the harmony and unity of design style and suitable feel, and the application of technical means as an important element of design. After more than ten years of advocacy and accumulation, the concept of "the most beautiful book" has been increasingly accepted by the publishing and design circles in China.

　　Invited by the "Most Beautiful Books" jury, Japanese designer Mr. Song Tian Masamatsuda, German designer Ms. Konstanze Berner, China Beijing designers Mr. Liu Xiaoxiang and Mr. Zhang Zhiwei, China Guangdong designer Mr. Hong Wei and China Taiwan Province designer Mr. Huang Yongsong served as the invited judges of this year’s "Most Beautiful Books".

　　Attachment: Winners and comments of "The Most Beautiful Book" in 2018

　　Jiangsu Fenghuang Art Publishing House

　　Comments: The elegant gray tone of the book and the texture-rich paper used are very harmonious with the style of the ceramist’s works. The colorless and concave title needs readers to look carefully to form an introverted style. The concave-convex feeling of the seal reminds people of the production process of pottery, and also makes readers have expectations and reading desires for the content. The content of the book is mainly pictures, and the blank layout controls the rhythm of reading, and the priorities are clear, which sets off the author’s ceramic works.

　　The field of history

　　China Building Industry Press

　　Square books indicate many possibilities of space design on paper. Through the dialogue between architects and book designers in China, Japan and South Korea and the display of design works, the graphic designers in the space of paper reflect the control, understanding and design process of the "field" in architecture and paper, and the gap between the characters in typesetting is wide, or vertically or horizontally, suddenly large and small, and obliquely shooting at 45 degrees, which reflects different creative ideas, spatial awareness and layout logic of different styles. The paper material is soft, and the text content and architectural design concept are interlaced in the cube formed by thickness. The Chinese, English, Japanese and Korean characters have various typesetting forms.

　　Beijing Joint Publishing Company

　　This book uses a wooden box, which looks like an object. Open the box, the color matching of books is very unique, novel and pleasing to the eye. There are books and books, which is the popular way at present. The drawings in the book are beautifully designed, made of special paper, and of moderate size. It is commendable that the designer uses red for the annotations in the book, which is elegant with the main text.

　　Huichuang Youth: A Collection of Digital Media Art and Animation Works

　　Higher education press

　　The colors used in book design are very modern, and with abstract geometric figures, they have a strong visual impact and are full of youth. Every part of the book is combined with double contrasting colors, which is easy to identify at the incision of the book and convenient for readers to read and retrieve. Books are small and thick, with moderate feel and suitable for reading.

　　Shark

　　Literature and art development publishing house

　　Hand-made cover paper presents water ripples in line with the theme of the book, and the concave and convex texture increases the simplicity of the book. Concise text information is dotted on the spine of the book, which is convenient to find from the bookcase. The text uses simple gray-blue spot colors and the most restrained design elements to form an elegant and rhythmic layout. The calm and elegant overall style brings readers into the mysterious ocean world.

　　Spring blossoms facing the sea

　　Jiangsu Fenghuang literature and art publishing house

　　The uneven handwriting on the cover and the paper full of texture reflect the collision between tradition and modernity. The spine binding technique is simple and practical, and the plain cotton thread conforms to the tonality of this book. Text papers with different colors and textures distinguish the contents of books: Haizi’s poems are orange, representing the sun and the earth. Velco’s paintings are white, which represents pallor and depression. When two people meet, they sink into the soil (earth color). The incision is bound by riding nail which is cut first and then folded, which is unique.

　　Chongqing publishing house

　　Record the process of facial sketch comprehensively. The image adopts mirror image effect, and the subject is reflected from multiple angles by montage, which increases the reading pleasure. The package has visual coherence.

　　Xiangna Gallery

　　Shanghai People’s Fine Arts Publishing House

　　The overall shape of the book is slender. At first glance, it feels like a box with a sense of the future. The ratio of length to width is very comfortable, and the sense of weight of the book makes readers not surprised. The white cover is dotted with black numbers, which clearly conveys the history of the gallery. The soft paper in the text is different from the materials in the previous album, which increases the comfort of browsing. There is a huge amount of information, but the layout is orderly, the rhythm is moderate, and the overall design style is simple and quiet.

　　A brief history of the development of camellia bouquet in "micro-view"

　　China Building Industry Press

　　This book is a science and technology book. The cover is die-cut and the light pink tone is reminiscent of petals. The pink color that runs through the cover and text of the book is matched with the rhythmic layout design, and the two colored ribbons that are the finishing touch echo the two bright yellow pages in the middle of the inner page, embellishing the yellow of the camellia stamens. This design wins more with less, bringing readers into a world of camellia. The design of charts in the book not only extends the readability of information, but also enriches the formal language of design.

　　Commercial press

　　There are traces of birds everywhere. Two lines run through the text to represent the flight trajectory of birds and also represent the versions of the works of two translators. This design is quite poetic, light in material, and it fits the image of birds without showing emotion.

　　Beiyue literature and art publishing house

　　This is a set of low-cost books suitable for reading. Designers strive to be simple and clear in the design and use of paper. The concave pattern on the cover presents different scenery and lines in the author’s hometown, reflecting visual symbols such as water, rice fields, houses and wheat waves. The black text on the cover is arranged up and down, and the design is unique. Looking through the contents of the book, the version is designed with a large margin. A line does not exceed 30 words, and the number of lines on a page is controlled within 24 lines, which is beneficial to reading. The judges appreciated the designer’s attempt at this low-cost book design.

　　Shandong friendship publishing house

　　This book helps the blind to perceive the characters smoothly and read their contents by touching the source and development changes of Chinese characters and connecting with the cultural connotation behind the words. The book cover is designed in yellow and black, which looks heavy but actually light. Braille fonts on the inner page have a strong sense of touch and reflect the evolution process of Braille fonts. At the same time, in order to be suitable for ordinary readers to read, the text is specially matched with Braille, and the text can also be touched. The overall design of this book is concise and clear, and the visual effect is outstanding.

　　Jiangsu Fenghuang Art Publishing House

　　Color structure and word processing seem to be on the cloud, and the cover incision is mixed and exquisite. It would be better if it were lighter.

　　Jiangsu Fenghuang Art Publishing House

　　The perfect unity of design and content is very rare for the more difficult chronicle design. This design skillfully outlines the word "Gao" with thread fitting, adding a literary color. The text takes time as the context, and the layout is rigorous, leaving blank and ethereal, and the image of China is consistent with the cause of Gao Ershi, the protagonist of this book. The choice of paper is exquisite and light, and the signature position of the protagonist on the letter sleeve is clever and quiet. Taking the protagonist’s calligraphy as the book coat, the design is just right.

　　Shaanxi normal university publishing head office

　　This book is divided into two volumes, the main volume introduces a wide range of businesses in the market; The design of the supplement is also remarkable. It shows people who are engaged in the industry in the form of cartoons, and the businesses that people are engaged in are represented by folding clothes. After folding, the front is a picture, and the back is a record of these people in the market and their languages, which is quite smoky of market life. China in the street is also the China of mankind.

　　Jiangsu phoenix education publishing house

　　The design shows the true feelings everywhere, and the rough paper wrapped in snacks in old shops is combined with rough edges, showing the fading folk old trades and professions, which has a hazy beauty. The ancient and folk binding method is adopted, and the page number is set strangely. The text in the text and the big picture are represented by different materials, which enriches the visual language. Black-and-white pictures printed on crude paper have an ancient mottled intention, which seems to show that all new industries originate from old businesses.

　　Excellent Works Collection of the 9th National Book Design Art Exhibition

　　Nanjing Publishing Media Group Nanjing Publishing House

　　The combination of book box stamping and cover blanching in this book design combines Chinese characters "book design" and English "book design". The Chinese characters are indented and English blanched, and the top of the head is black. The visual effect is novel, which reflects the innovation of China book designers in binding and controlling materials. The text design of the book is also very unique, and the text and pictures are appropriate and even. It reflects the contents of 338 outstanding works very well. Due to the vacancy of the grand prize in this exhibition, this book also makes a unique expression in design. The design and presentation of exhibits have the characteristics of great information and interest. The spaced but unevenly distributed burrs at the mouth of the book classify all kinds of award-winning works and bring the whole book to a delicate, elegant, peaceful and upright reading context. The text is made of different paper materials and beautifully printed.

　　Guangxi Normal University Press

　　This collection of images includes 66 photos of birds (similar to bird-shaped bird droppings), which are common in appearance. However, after opening it, you will find that the book is divided into three unique parts: the first part is "Images of Birds", in which all photos are black and white, true and hazy, and the designer consciously downplays the clarity of the photos and gives a detailed statement on the shooting information of the photos; The second part, "Atlas of Convenient Birds", is colored and described in words. Some pictures can be expanded on both sides with exquisite patterns. The third part is "Revealing the Secret of Convenient Birds". In order to prevent readers from feeling uncomfortable, a special seal is designed, which can only be opened to reveal the mystery and present various realistic bird droppings. The author’s mind is wide open, imagining the dirt everywhere in life as a bird, and using the evolution process of photos from black and white to color to reflect the structure of editing design in visual language is an important reason for the book to be recognized by the judges.

　　Shanghai literature and art publishing house

　　Interesting and humorous, the content and design are mixed, which vividly describes such an unbearable bad habit in daily life and shows the vitality and excellent intentions of young designers.

　　Chengdu Times Publishing House

　　The overall design not only has a strong folk flavor, but also conforms to the reading aesthetics of modern people. Authentic folk embroidery constitutes the chapters and pages of books, enriches the structure of books and brings surprises to readers. In contrast, the text layout is unpretentious and suitable for quiet reading. The cover is hand-cut fabric, which echoes the title of the book.

　　Commercial press

　　From the appearance, it is quite special, using magnet as the envelope of the book, and black as the main color. The spine of the three books is exactly the same, and the book mouth is divided into three styles: hairy, flat and uneven, which rotate between the book mouth, the head and the foot. This design feels comfortable, the photos in the book are also black, and the visual experience is relatively unified.

　　blossom press

　　The design is quite handcrafted, and the softness of the paper is perfectly matched with the rough edges without affectation, which is completely in line with the theme. The color of the paper fits the impression of Dunhuang. The spine of the book is not completely die-cut, and its shape is like a grotto hole. After it is torn off, the title of the book is revealed, which is a clever design.

　　China Youth Publishing House

　　The details have a sense of lens and substitution. The paper material and binding of the preface are all very strange, the color is like Tibetan prayer flags, and it is like the separation of the contents of the book, echoing the middle pages. Ending with a color photo, the vision is varied and not monotonous.

　　china pictorial publishing house

　　The interweaving of blue and purple constitutes the rhythm change of this two-volume sister book. The beauty of this book lies in the illustrations full of artistic sense and mystery, which strengthens the artistic conception of the poem. Comfortable small format is very suitable for this collection of poems, which makes readers relaxed and comfortable to read.

　　Shanghai People’s Fine Arts Publishing House

　　Based on the author’s 40 years’ experience in practice and research, this paper gives a new interpretation of book design concepts and a systematic statement of design methodology. This book focuses on teaching content, rich in knowledge and information, and incorporates various ideas and book-making methods designed by the East and the West. Designers devote their efforts and emotions to writing and design. Considering that this book is mainly used by ordinary students, its book design is concise and easy to understand, and there is not much craft. One aspect that deserves praise is that although the book is a simple paperback, its moderate width is suitable for students to read it in a flat way, which is very stretched. The color of this book is mainly red, supplemented by some blank space. It is very practical to have a printing typesetting series table.